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Mune
12-09-2007, 02:49 AM
Anyone heard of "We Are Change.org"?

kuroneko
12-10-2007, 10:43 PM
wasnt it that group that believe that the us government is lying bout dozen of things?

ElderKain
12-10-2007, 10:55 PM
Of course it was an inside job, lol look at the Flight# of one of the planes that hit

You set the flight "Q33 NY" in the Wingdings font and here is the result

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That's too much of a councidence.....

:hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot:

kuroneko
12-10-2007, 11:19 PM
hoho...just been to the site...now i feel like agent mulder trying to prove a conspiracy theory....

ZephyrBlack
12-11-2007, 05:02 AM
stop making it worse, it is not good to make a tragedy that is false or true and make it as a topics to talk about for fun. anyway it is on the wrong place.

Mune
12-11-2007, 02:03 PM
I was convinced when watching a UK news story about it. The reporter said that the both of the towers have fallen about 4 hours ago and that people were digging people out now, where it shows the live coverage in the background of the towers still standing. Jumping the gun, don't you think?

ZephyrBlack
12-12-2007, 10:18 AM
thread closed.

Dark_Clown
12-12-2007, 03:55 PM
thread closed.

who the heck u think u are declaring threads as closed damn baka
we have more or less the right of free speech here which means that thread will stay open a lil bit longer

Btw.~moved~
Wrong section
~FT~

keijiro
12-13-2007, 07:06 PM
Old news. Typical rednecks

teacoa
12-13-2007, 09:46 PM
any thing looks suspicious and can be turned into a conspiracy theory if anyone intelligent wants it to happen. Anything.

bitter15
12-13-2007, 09:47 PM
never heard of it

Sylvius
12-14-2007, 09:26 PM
you should watch the zeitgeist movie. i'm not saying they're right. but it's an interesting watch if you're into conspiracy theories.

oh yea skip the first 9 minutes of it it's just overture music for 9 minutes. dunno why they did that.

here's the link

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be warned the movie is like 2 hours long.

VectorBoard
12-14-2007, 11:04 PM
9/11 being an inside job? That's nothing new, one theory I heard is that both towers had a billion dollar insurance and that they did nothing in order to cash that money.

doomsan
12-17-2007, 05:10 PM
and alqida was hired for demolishing :)

Mune
12-18-2007, 02:14 AM
One day, only a few weeks earlier, they evacuated the both towers. Kinda suspicious if you ask me. Then, after the collapse, only about 5% of the building was able to be used for inspections. The other 95% was hauled off, under classified paperwork and disposed of by government officials. The inspectors weren't allowed to investigate that 95%.

camb0004
12-18-2007, 09:18 AM
Yea it realy was an inside job

LDK
12-18-2007, 09:54 AM
I dont believe 119 was a conspiracy...sound kinda weird for them to destroy such a important place -_-.

drifteruk360360
12-18-2007, 11:05 AM
i just checked out the wingdings thing, thats weird...

GlacierC
12-18-2007, 11:31 AM
great post

KetchupSauce
12-18-2007, 07:30 PM
i'm on the fence on this one. Doesn't make any sense and a lot of the evidence is just circumstantial.

OnyxShadow
12-18-2007, 08:38 PM
I am pretty sure global warming is an inside job, too.

tnomad
12-28-2007, 12:07 PM
I am pretty sure global warming is an inside job, too.

SPOILERS! We all did it!

Klien
01-13-2008, 12:23 PM
I'm with Onyx. Can all of you moronic drama causing ignoramuses stop spamming every blasted forum with "9/11 is an inside job" bull? NOBODY GIVES A -gets muted for a few minutes due to excessive swearing, becuase this is all just so stupid-!!!! That was AGES ago, there is moer evidence to suggest the only inside job on it was done on Clintons behalf when he covered it up saying , "everything is perfectly fine!" I even hear pro-Clinton debaters go, "well... yeah... you gotta point with that..." Even my sister who thinks it was an inside job thinks Clinton is largely to blame over Bush x_x DROP IT! Age old story of no real importance that 90% of people these days roll their eyes at even if they think it happened just becuase everyone deems it as resolved. Conspirators think it happened, anti-conspirators don't think it happened. Both have evidence, both believe they won... SO SHUT UP!! x_x; dang.. This is seriously the 15th forum I was on this WEEK that had a month or newer post of this completely worthless debate... If this gets any worse, every forum is going to start popping up things like "JFK WAS AN INSIDE JOB!" and "WASHINGTON'S ELECTION WAS RIGGED!" ... If that happens, I'm quitting EVERY last one of those forums while swearing my butt of REGARDLESS of the rules x_x;; There's just plain no debate, it's done, goose is cooked, turkey is done, DROP IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!

Darkest
01-13-2008, 01:07 PM
I think we can all agree that it's bush's fault.
He ignored the terrorist's warning, which led on to 9/11 (<- whether it's real or not :rolleyes: ).
He started the war with Iraq to claim their oil (<- the oil thing has been proved, a top general or someone important said so)
He stirred up all this hatred from Muslims
And he has virtually brought the world's economy into recession.

I agree with freedom of speech and all that but do we have to have this 9/11 argument here aswell. ;_;
There is so much evidence to support both sides that no one can possibly win and then the debate turns in petty arguments. >_<
If it were true, do you really think the government is going to admit it in this current political crisis. C'mon!

EDIT:
One more thing, he thing that pisses me off about this conspiracy is that Islamic fanatics are using it as an excuse to hate america since they believe its a conspiracy that has been committed by the Jews. >_<

btw, if anyone here believes the Jew theory, fuck you! (Seriously, people like you are bastards).
Those who believe the government (in general) did it, you're cool. You have a right to question your government (unfortunately the same goes for the Jew theory aswell >_< ).

Klien
01-14-2008, 09:16 AM
:sic:

I agree with freedom of speech and all that but do we have to have this 9/11 argument here aswell. ;_;
There is so much evidence to support both sides that no one can possibly win and then the debate turns in petty arguments. >_<
If it were true, do you really think the government is going to admit it in this current political crisis. C'mon!

:em035:

Had you just said that, I'd be fine, but the first part was not only uncalled for, but stupid. Here's facts you overlooked.

1. Clinton, as in Bill Clinton, was the one who overlooked the terrrorist threats. I thought that was common knowledge now.

2. I'm sorry, but Bush isn't controlling the terrorists, so how is this all his fault? They've been trying to kill us since about the time Clinton got in and just didn't get anywhere because they're freaking pathetic!

3 Some of the stuff presented to Bush was lied about, this is also proven.

Am I saying he's right? No, I'm just saying he's not purely to blame. Now can we DROP THE SUBJECT!? x_x;; could an admin close this. I've actually banned 9/11 discussion and similar age old conspiracy theories on my forums due to the fact they insight rage, anger, fighting, and similar things, and are often started by trollers aiming to get "101z" off of random losers actually willing to debate x_x;

:dark: pleeeeeeeeease drop it. This is soooooo stupid...

Darth_FT
01-14-2008, 09:24 AM
:sic:



:em035:

Had you just said that, I'd be fine, but the first part was not only uncalled for, but stupid. Here's facts you overlooked.

1. Clinton, as in Bill Clinton, was the one who overlooked the terrrorist threats. I thought that was common knowledge now.

2. I'm sorry, but Bush isn't controlling the terrorists, so how is this all his fault? They've been trying to kill us since about the time Clinton got in and just didn't get anywhere because they're freaking pathetic!

3 Some of the stuff presented to Bush was lied about, this is also proven.

Am I saying he's right? No, I'm just saying he's not purely to blame. Now can we DROP THE SUBJECT!? x_x;; could an admin close this. I've actually banned 9/11 discussion and similar age old conspiracy theories on my forums due to the fact they insight rage, anger, fighting, and similar things, and are often started by trollers aiming to get "101z" off of random losers actually willing to debate x_x;

:dark: pleeeeeeeeease drop it. This is soooooo stupid...

closing that thread??? nah don't think so...just relax a lil bit ...
if u have a problem with such threads then don't read them ...

ultimaflaral
01-14-2008, 08:57 PM
I've never seen very much sense in the argument that it was an inside job. Consider, 9/11 slammed the US economy down the toilet for a long time. This is hardly unforeseeable, so it makes sense that some considerably greater payoff would be necessary to justify the action. Going into the Middle-East for oil sounds great for motive, but if that's really been the case, why is it taking so long for the economic benefits to start rolling in? Gas prices are still at a record high in this country and just trying to comprehend the debt we've assumed for funding the military operations is mind-numbing.

Frankly, if it was an inside job, I'd have to say that the operation failed miserably, at least long term. It's just not rational to assume that anyone would willingly cripple the nation without definite assurances for future gains, none of which seem to be present. I don't really see our administration overflowing with competence, but no one takes a leap like that without being VERY sure there's solid ground below them.

Darkest
01-15-2008, 03:48 AM
:sic:

:em035:

Had you just said that, I'd be fine, but the first part was not only uncalled for, but stupid. Here's facts you overlooked.

1. Clinton, as in Bill Clinton, was the one who overlooked the terrrorist threats. I thought that was common knowledge now.

2. I'm sorry, but Bush isn't controlling the terrorists, so how is this all his fault? They've been trying to kill us since about the time Clinton got in and just didn't get anywhere because they're freaking pathetic!

3 Some of the stuff presented to Bush was lied about, this is also proven.

Am I saying he's right? No, I'm just saying he's not purely to blame. Now can we DROP THE SUBJECT!? x_x;; could an admin close this. I've actually banned 9/11 discussion and similar age old conspiracy theories on my forums due to the fact they insight rage, anger, fighting, and similar things, and are often started by trollers aiming to get "101z" off of random losers actually willing to debate x_x;

:dark: pleeeeeeeeease drop it. This is soooooo stupid...
Woah. 0_0;
I know this subject pisses you off (its the same for me aswell) but typing when pissed off isn't going to get you far, believe me. Anyway, I know about that info you mentioned (well not all of it ^_^; ).

Whether you consider me one of those losers, however, I do not know, but unfortunately everyone is free to discuss this topic regardless whether people like it or not. Heck, I even don't like this thread but I have to tolerate it's existence because it's not going to be closed anytime soon.
Anyway, I'm correcting the quote you quoted:

I agree with freedom of speech and all that but do we have to have this 9/11 argument here aswell. ;_;
There is so much evidence to support both sides that no one can possibly win and then the debate turns in petty arguments. >_<
If it were true, do you really think the government is going to admit it in this current political crisis. C'mon!


Ok, let me rephrase this.
When I meant there is evidence to support both sides, I meant that when significant evidence to disprove the theories is shown, the conspiracy theorists come up with something these to support their claims.

Then the cycle keeps going and going and, no-one wins.
Happy now. :em038:

btw, I don't believe the 9/11 conspiracies, just to let you know. ;)

I've never seen very much sense in the argument that it was an inside job. Consider, 9/11 slammed the US economy down the toilet for a long time. This is hardly unforeseeable, so it makes sense that some considerably greater payoff would be necessary to justify the action. Going into the Middle-East for oil sounds great for motive, but if that's really been the case, why is it taking so long for the economic benefits to start rolling in? Gas prices are still at a record high in this country and just trying to comprehend the debt we've assumed for funding the military operations is mind-numbing.

Frankly, if it was an inside job, I'd have to say that the operation failed miserably, at least long term. It's just not rational to assume that anyone would willingly cripple the nation without definite assurances for future gains, none of which seem to be present. I don't really see our administration overflowing with competence, but no one takes a leap like that without being VERY sure there's solid ground below them.

Maybe it was a perfect plan, but Bush was behind it and buggered it up. ;)

KidGuy
01-15-2008, 02:35 PM
possibly....but we need to move forward.

Mune
01-22-2008, 07:23 PM
And why are our gas prices going up? We get oil from the middle east, even though we have a Alaskan pipeline, hell it's being extended through the middle of the US now... It's because the people that supply it think that the war will make a reasonable excuse to raise prices to fatten their wallets.

In an interview on TV, I think it was Good Morning America or the Today show, they interviewed the guy that is in charge of gas prices. By the end of the interview, he stated that the prices were going up to make more money, not because of any kind of shortage of oil. Now, if you don't believe me, that's up to you. But, why would a company fuel prices if they know people will buy it at a high cost?

If you had a few pens(nothing special) and could sell them all for $5 each and people would buy them, would you sell them? Basic principles of economics: Buy low, sell high, supply and demand. If demand is low or seems low, sell high. That way, you're making money.

But, I don't want anyone mad at me. I'm just being informative. I just believe the people have the right to choose what to believe and not get served it on a platter and be told that it's true and not to argue, even if you were there or have evidence to suggest otherwise.

pretmaker
01-23-2008, 02:04 AM
Learn to live people...

9/11 is a tragic story indeed. I feel sorry for the survivors and family members that are left behind and not taken with them. It would have been better most of the time........


First of all... Inside or outside job. It does not mater anything to me. The only thing that does mater is the results that we get from it.


The rest of the post will be in a spoiler tag since it would be a bit harsh for some people.

I do not give anything about disasters. They happen all the time. Bombings are happening all the time. America in general always looked down on the other continents and now they are struck the hardest of all...

So that serves them right in my opinion. They had it coming and they did not act. But that is an old discussion and even proven by research.


The real problem here seems to be mass mind control. It sounds really stupid but think about the other thread that I just started a discussion in about the seven year old girl undressing herself in front of class due to a command made by an female teacher.

People only see one side of the story. They never wait for the proof.

America immediately declares war on terror... What is terror. Terror here terror there. Everywhere is terror.

3 year old babies with a name of a known individual that has committed crimes in the past is even refused access to the USA.
America goes into war with some people who have different believes different laws, different commons. They do not think the same as us they are barbaric. They are wrong they are evil.

I for myself decide what is evil and what is not.
I do not care about believes or commons or any other thing. I care for the person behind it all.

Here in the Dutch we have some trouble with "black" people. We also have the Islam terror calling here in the Dutch... But we are weary of it. (At least most of us are...)

Most of the "black" people here in the Dutch come from Turkey and Morocco.

So it is not completely comparable... But still we also have such winds here in our home country and they are gaining control eventually.


The main problem is the mind control that is simply as basic as barbarian. People are connected to their believes. They have it right and only they are right. It are always other people who are wrong.

Now we have some sort of war. When will the fighting end? That is the main question you should ask yourself.
War only leads to more war. Revenge only leads to more revenge.

It is a circle that never ends until it is clear that it HAS to end. And then it is already to late....



Imagine this scenario.

The American and Dutch are fighting against each other... Then out of nowhere both sides get attacked by something/someone.
Both the American and Dutch people have big losses. But then they discover the evil plan of the people that attacked them.
So they will combine their forces to protect both countries.


Big headlines in the newspaper about speculating who attacked who. Everybody is in panic. First they fought for freedom/solitude. Then they fight for survival...

Although this scenario is not very popular it is understandable. Create an enemy and then you have the public behind you, as long as you say what the public wants to hear.

Even Hitler did the same. He was a great leader for allot of people. And I do agree he is a great leader. He may not have done allot of good things. For example mass murder of a minority but he was still a great leader. He had the support of the German people.

Germany is ashamed of their history with Adolf Hitler. But instead of being afraid they could learn allot of things from his period.

He was close to WOMD (Weapons Of Mass Destruction) using heavy water. I have read somewhere that we can use the same research for nuclear energy. So he found some good things but he has done some bad with it. Hell even I have a bad day some times.


But it is just all about mind control. The politicians control the masses by manipulating them with the words they want to hear... It is an old scenario. But it is the world that we are living in. As soon as people will understand it, it will change. But until then it will never change.


It is possible that the world will not understand until 2150~.

The reason for that saying is something you must research yourself. I am not telling more about it since you will not believe me if I tell all about it.

I can give you the hint about zeitgeist... But the rest is all up to you.




Sorry for the big piece that is hidden. But out of the respect for some individuals who might still have family and not a clear sight of what is happening I have placed some harsh words in the spoiler tag. So only read it if you are willing to accept the words of a stranger who is pretty ignorant in some eyes.

zeropro
02-15-2008, 04:33 AM
everyone knows what happened people just stopped caring , and rightly slow , if a man with the intellect of a cockaroach on meth can get elected twice is there really such a thing as hope

maiwaifu
02-17-2008, 04:56 AM
I've also heard that Jews did WTC. lol.

Will the conspiracy theories ever end?

shadowfoxe
03-02-2008, 04:16 PM
conspiracy theories....lulz =P

keygbay
03-06-2008, 12:56 AM
"9/11 was an inside job"
no.

hardyhar
03-08-2008, 11:31 AM
So many conspiracy issues.

GKhan
03-15-2008, 05:30 AM
4chan tells me Will Smith was behind it all.

takeya
03-15-2008, 12:49 PM
4chan tells me Will Smith was behind it all.

@GKahn: Rule Number 1...

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Kurozuke
12-22-2008, 02:41 AM
Any thing looks suspicious and can be turned into a conspiracy theory.

If anyone intelligent wants it to happen.

AnimeUSMC1775
12-22-2008, 03:01 AM
I was convinced when watching a UK news story about it. The reporter said that the both of the towers have fallen about 4 hours ago and that people were digging people out now, where it shows the live coverage in the background of the towers still standing. Jumping the gun, don't you think?
FYI, the Twin Towers were BOTH down within two hours of the impact of the aircrafts.

El Jay
12-22-2008, 03:27 AM
I'm just going to... censor this whole thing with a spoiler. If you care to read my opinion, and don't like it/agree with it, it's your own fault, so don't complain to me about my thoughts. I have enough trouble with them myself.

Oh boy, I can't go anywhere without hearing shit on 9-11. My dad rants on and on on the subject and about Bush, then the interbutts have to be all durr about it.

Guess what. Who gives a shit? People died. Fuck em. I don't care. They're dead, they have nothing to worry about. Eternal piece and other such bullshit. They don't have to worry about playing the game called life anymore. No taxes, no gas, no need for food, to stress out over holidays, all that rot. I envy them in a manner of speaking. Clinton, Bush, who had more to blame, DON'T CARE. It's not always the fault of ONE DAMNED PERSON. if it isn't an inside job, well here's a kicker, terrorist's bombed the towers over a hatred for ALL Americans, not just Bush or Clinton. Inside job? In that case, the blame falls on the current presidency and all who are in the government who agree with him.

I don't care either way though. What's done is done. If we all dwell on the past, we can't make our way into the future as we need to. So, I say, screw 9-11 now. It's just another day. A bad thing happened the day the tower's fell, but we are in 2008 now, going on 2009. Live in the here and now already.

Now time for a nice coffee to keep me awake. Hoo boy.