Rape victim sentenced, lawyer's license revoked

[Yukina]

A Saudi Arabian human rights attorney is asking the government to allow him to represent a woman who was gang-raped -- and then sentenced to prison for speaking out about the case. [Only registered and activated users can see links]> ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
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[renegadesoul]

Ayayay!!!.... what is happening to the world right now!!!

Laws and their loop holes..... :sigh:

TIME FOR VENGEANCE :em016:

[DehanHolda]

All hail the law... *sigh*

[mail5266829]

evil Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah ?
again on these ′′bad′′ Arabs?
in other countries is better?

[fgjhl]

i dont think all Arabs are immoral
but some are immoral i think

[bitter15]

wat the heck, isnt that racisim or something?

[Aplus]

I believe the term you are looking for is 'sexism'.

[zeropro]

is rape really that bad... c'mon?

[krono]

is rape really that bad... c'mon?

¬__¬ not funny

[Slayden]

Well what do the Muslims think about women? Let's take a look:


Tabari IX:113
"Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an."

Tabari I:280
"Allah said, 'It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.' Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid."

Qur'an 4:3
"If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with orphans, marry women of your choice who seem good to you, two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to do justice (to so many), then only one, or (a slave) that you possess, that will be more suitable. And give the women their dower as a free gift; but if they, of their own good pleasure, remit any part of it to you, eat it with enjoyment, take it with right good cheer and absorb it (in your wealth)."

Qur'an 4:11
"Allah directs you in regard of your Children's (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females.... These are settled portions ordained by Allah."

Bukhari:V1B22N28
"The Prophet said: 'I was shown the Hell Fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful.' When asked what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, 'All the favors done for them by their husbands.'"

Muslim:B1N142
"'O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.' A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah's Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: 'You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.' Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense? The Prophet replied, 'Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.'"

Qur'an 4:43
"Believers, approach not prayers with a mind befogged or intoxicated until you understand what you utter. Nor when you are polluted, until after you have bathed. If you are ill, or on a journey, or come from answering the call of nature, or you have touched a woman, and you find no water, then take for yourselves clean dirt, and rub your faces and hands. Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving." [The Qur'an claims women are unclean and polluted - worse than dirt.]

Bukhari:V4B55N547
"The Prophet said, 'But for the Israelis, meat would not decay, and if it were not for Eve, wives would never betray their husbands.'"

Qur'an 33:59
"Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better."

Qur'an 4:15
"If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death [by starvation] claims them."

Bukhari:V4B52N143
V5B59N523
"When we reached Khaybar, Muhammad said that Allah had enabled him to conquer them. It was then that the beauty of Safiyah was described to him. Her husband had been killed, so Allah's Apostle selected her for himself. He took her along with him till we reached a place called Sad where her menses were over and he took her for his wife, consummating his marriage to her, and forcing her to wear the veil.'"

Bukhari:V5B59N524
"The Muslims said among themselves, 'Will Safiyah be one of the Prophet's wives or just a lady captive and one of his possessions?'"

Ishaq:593
"From the captives of Hunayn, Allah's Messenger gave [his son-in-law] Ali a slave girl called Baytab and he gave [future Caliph] Uthman a slave girl called Zaynab and [future Caliph] Umar another."

Bukhari:V3B48N826
"The Prophet said, 'Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?' The women said, 'Yes.' He said, 'This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind.'"

Ishaq:584
"Tell the men with you who have wives: never trust a woman."

Ishaq:185
"In hell I saw women hanging by their breasts. They had fathered bastards."

Qur'an 24:31
"Say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty except what (must) appear; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display them except to their husbands..."

Qur'an 24:34
"Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. [And here's the freedom-to-pimp card:] But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving."

Ishaq:469
"The Apostle said, 'Every wailing woman lies except those who wept for Sa'd.'"

Tabari VIII:62
Ishaq:496
"Ali [Muhammad's adopted son, son-in-law, and future Caliph] said, 'Prophet, women are plentiful. You can get a replacement, easily changing one for another.'"

Ishaq:496
"Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"

Qur'an 24:1
"(This is) a surah which We have revealed and made obligatory and in which We have revealed clear communications that you may be mindful. For the woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah. And let a party of the Believers witness their punishment."

Qur'an 24:6
"And for those who launch a charge against their wives, accusing them, but have no witnesses or evidence, except themselves; let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies, (swearing four times) by Allah that he is the one speaking the truth."


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I think that answers the question...

[maiwaifu]

But of course, the world could always care less about these things happening in good ol' Saudi because they are the ones who are spending a lot of gold right now building island playgrounds for the rich and affluent in the Persian Gulf. Lol.

I imagine Adolf Hitler must have also had the same advantage prior to World War II, when Germany had come back from being an impoverished loser in WWI to being an industrial power.

[Junior666]

Shit. Slayden, is that 100% accurate? It's disgusting to hear women being talked about like that. It sounds as if we're no better than animals.

And that case, that the woman should be punished, is absolutely ridiculous.

[Slayden]

Shit. Slayden, is that 100% accurate? It's disgusting to hear women being talked about like that. It sounds as if we're no better than animals.

100% accurate. And you are animals in Islam. The first passage says so.

Tabari IX:113
"Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an."


Personally, I'm disgusted by it. Is it any wonder why Sheik al-Hilali said that women are "meat" and "deserve rape" when they are not wearing a veil?

[Junior666]

That really is disgusting. How can anyone allow a woman to be treated like that? It's just wrong.

And they say the west is bad.

[chimpzy]

Puts things in perspective. It's just one of many examples that show how incredibly privileged Western women generally are compared to some parts of the world.

And to think that at one time, women in the West enjoyed a position in society that was just as deplorable.

[chimpzy]

That really is disgusting. How can anyone allow a woman to be treated like that? It's just wrong.

And they say the west is bad.
Puts things in perspective, doesn't it?

It's just one of many examples that show how incredibly privileged Western women generally are compared to some parts of the world.
And to think that at one time, women in the West enjoyed a position in society that was just as deplorable.

EDIT: Just noticed I double-posted. My apologies

[ZevGun]

That really is disgusting. How can anyone allow a woman to be treated like that? It's just wrong.

And they say the west is bad.


where they are from, this is the norm
look at all of the quotes Slayden put up. With stuff like that I can almost understand why this kind of thing happens
not everyone agrees with it, the lawyer got his license revoked, but when it's rooted deeply in religious texts it can be very hard to change/remove points of view

an extremely silly anecdote to try and explain my comment:
when i was a young kid my great grandma tried to give me a banana
i said no (no one knows why) with some sort of force
i have never touched a banana since then (again, i don't know why, but i can't bring myself to eat them, let alone get one to eat)

[sommar]

Ok... this all just makes me sick. Especially since it's true... :defeat: