Bleach

[zangetsu3223]

Originally Posted by zultekmilennia

Damn, now I know my obsessiveness with Zaraki's going berserk is not ill-gotten.

When is he going to get his Shikai? At least, just give us some hints that he'll actually gets one.

I've said it before ill say it again his releases are as follows.

Shiki- take off eye patch
Bankai- uses two hands

He is never going to get a normal release because he doesn't need one.

[Dark Dragon King]

that is so true.

[nanash1092]

Originally Posted by zangetsu3223

I've said it before ill say it again his releases are as follows.

Shiki- take off eye patch
Bankai- uses two hands

He is never going to get a normal release because he doesn't need one.

i agree with zangetsu3323 coz' Kenpachi still strong without shikai,
btw, i don't think kenpachi will ever get his shikai coz' he doesn't even know his zanpaktou's name.

[zultekmilennia]

Just because he doesn't need it doesn't mean he won't get it. Just like Ichigo. He doesn't get his shikai until he lost his shinigami power.

In other words, Zaraki still have a chance to get a shikai, as his sword is still a zanpakutou, so it has a name. He just doesn't know it yet.

In fact, as he focuses on power more than strategy, he needs shikai even more. Though, it'll take the fun out of battles, as he could probably waste anyone with ease.

But, after the fight with Ichigo, he did say that he wanted to get stronger, right? He even asked his sword's name.

[zangetsu3223]

Originally Posted by zultekmilennia

Just because he doesn't need it doesn't mean he won't get it. Just like Ichigo. He doesn't get his shikai until he lost his shinigami power.

In other words, Zaraki still have a chance to get a shikai, as his sword is still a zanpakutou, so it has a name. He just doesn't know it yet.

In fact, as he focuses on power more than strategy, he needs shikai even more. Though, it'll take the fun out of battles, as he could probably waste anyone with ease.

But, after the fight with Ichigo, he did say that he wanted to get stronger, right? He even asked his sword's name.

Kenpachi sword does not have a name. It is true that all zanpaktou's have names however that is only after they are filled with their users spirit energy. Kenpachi said that this was a difference between his and other zanpaktou's. And I believe that he will never get one. Because that is one of the things that define him as a character. But your right he would take anyone out with ease if he had one. Oh and about wanting to be stronger he did find a way he decided to use both of his hands in a fight.

But on a different topic what do you think Ichigo's new power up is going to be? I mean it is not possible for him at his current level to even dream of taking out Aizen. Personally I think one of two things will happen. One he will find a way to turn into a complete hollow ( like when he was training with the Vizards . Or second there will be a huge group battle with everyone against Aizen.

[Dark Dragon King]

Originally Posted by zangetsu3223

Kenpachi sword does not have a name. It is true that all zanpaktou's have names however that is only after they are filled with their users spirit energy. Kenpachi said that this was a difference between his and other zanpaktou's. And I believe that he will never get one. Because that is one of the things that define him as a character. But your right he would take anyone out with ease if he had one. Oh and about wanting to be stronger he did find a way he decided to use both of his hands in a fight.

But on a different topic what do you think Ichigo's new power up is going to be? I mean it is not possible for him at his current level to even dream of taking out Aizen. Personally I think one of two things will happen. One he will find a way to turn into a complete hollow ( like when he was training with the Vizards . Or second there will be a huge group battle with everyone against Aizen.

Yes I definitely agree with you there on Kenpachi. Also I think that both outcomes are very possible, but I think both will happen.

[zultekmilennia]

Zaraki learnt kendo from the commander when he forced his way into the Gotei 13, so he kinda knew it all along. He just didn't use during the fight against Ichigo.

In other words, he haven't got a definite method of getting stronger other than just plain being badass. Zangetsu did say that Zaraki's sword conflicted with Zaraki, with them going against one another instead of cooperating.

If the sword at least accepted Zaraki, he'll be much more stronger even without a shikai.

As for Aizen, the known extend of his power is that he's at least three times the level of a captain (during the usage of Hougou), so it'll be hard to beat him alone.

But, the First Captain is fighting him here, and I hope nobody's forgotten the Vizards. Ichigo turning into complete hollow isn't advisable, as he'll have trouble controlling his power.

And the point of a vizard is having the power of a hollow while maintaining the state of mind and skill of a shinigami.

[zangetsu3223]

The reason he didn't use it in the fight with Ichigo is because the idea of him using two hands was not thought of yet. But zultekmilennia you make a good point about Kenpachi and his sword. If they did work together then that would be a way for him to get stronger without getting a shiki.

Now Aizen verses the first divison captain would be sweet but I don't think that the Vizards will help out. You have to remember that they hate all soul reapers. So they would most likely not get involved at least till when the espada and Aizen defeat the remaining captains. And there are two maybe three people who will most likely take the stage soon. Those being Ichigo's dad, Ryūken Ishida, and Kisuke. Now I have doubts about Ryuken but if the city where he lives is in danger then he won't be able to make any money as a doctor so he may step up.

And finally about Ichigo becoming a hollow. If you recall ichigo still had some characteristics of a soul reaper when he was in that form. He still had the kimono and his sword. And don't forget that his inner hollow did say that if he wants to completely master his powers he would have to wait till the time when he returned again. And since Ichigo was able to master keeping his mask out with the fight with Grimjaw without the appearance of his inner hollow then that means that their are still powers related to his hollow form that Ichigo still has to master. And turning into a complete hollow seems to be the only option at this point in time.

[sheshira]

They most likely hate Soul Society because in many ways Soul Society betrayed them. From what we've learned, they were former shinigami and indirectly learn that shinigami have a "hollow" spirit that lay dormant within them. More than likely the "fear" or "hatred" of vizards didn't happen until someone did anti-vizard propaganda and since many were around that time are still in their current seat of power it means they most likely supported the anti-vizard cause. If that is the case, if I were a vizard, I'd hate Soul Society too.

[nadhare]

I don't know...
Kenpachi is strong enough without his sword ability

but... since it againts the espada... I believe he will show his bankai power....

"he is the one who never down by a cut of sword"

even ichimaru gin and aizen believe that kenpahi is one one person that need to be awarness