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VP Debate
So before I say anything I am a woman so I could care less that Sarah Palin is a woman and I don't hold that against her. I have to say that because people keep thinking I am just woman hating for some reason.
So after watching the only VP debate I have decided this. This woman is an uninformed, out of touch idiot with little to no knowledge of anything outside of her home state. You can say what you want but on the spot invented the Talabiny or Talabinie...how every you would spell that. And suggested there would be a say way to use, not hold or contain but use nuclear weapons. It's just me but I thought that the talabin had almost no real connection to Iraq other than a few poor matters. Also I'm not too sure on this but aside from not using them there is no say way to set off a nuclear blast. The numbers of things I disagree with her on are staggering yet none of them worry me half as much as this woman herself. A heartbeat away from having a heart beat and she has no grasp of policy that does not have something to do with her home state. This idea that a woman is qualified to be VP because she has raised a family and has a special needs child is wrong it's beyond funny. It does not bother me so much that they dodge questions that what these people do it bothers me when they don't understand them. When ask about what her weaknesses were she didn't have an answer and went on a 2 minuet rant about her strengths that she was talking about all night. When she was asked just about any other question it was like reading McCain's web site with a pretty face talking too you. Now Joe didn't do a lot better but at least he tried. CNN says that 84% of people watching thought she did better than they expected and by that I think they where guessing she would trip going onto the stage. This was an easy night for her, theses questions where softballs pitched by a child and the best she pulled off double. Joe had a tight leash on him tonight. If we went on the attack he would be called a woman hater so he could not be himself like the last few debates. When asked about the mistakes of this administration she said that we should stop looking too the past. The other day when ask about what papers she read she said she read all of them. She is a republican as far as I know but when she was asked she didn't seem to care that prayer was not allowed in school. The only supreme court ruling she seems to not like would be that one that kills babies. I have been watching debates both national and local, even moderated one in my small town between two council members and I have never seen someone like her. I don't care that her answers where not slick or polished or even that they were just talking points. It's that for the first half it was all about greed and corruption on Wall Street and the second half was all about how qualified she. Over all this debate was sad. Joe didn't do his best and Sarah didn't understand the questions. She has been running for VP for around 5 weeks or so I would think that at some point she would have picked up the construction and read article 1 about what the job of the VP really is and not pretend that she is going to have power, again I would think you read the job description before you take the offer. Now I know people are going to agree with me and thank you but I don't care. I want to hear from someone that things she did a good job and contributed. Good luck. |
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Re: VP Debate
Hell, i thought she did a pretty good job. I'd call the debate a tie, i think she matched Biden, which i didn't expect her to be able to do. Joe dodged or ignored the same number of questions, sadly the first thirty minutes of the debate neither of them had properly responded to a single question. And Biden managed to get wrong a good number of his facts as well (ouright saying the McCain voted for things he didn't and didn't vote for things he did among other things).
All in all i thought she had a good handle on energy issues, which is my primary point for this election, and a good stance on foreign policy which is my secondary (Although she butchered poor Gen. McKiernan's name, but other than that). and she most certainly did not say we should use nuclear weapons (is that what your saying? i cant quite catch what your getting at with the phrasing), both candidates spent the time dodging the question (which was under what circumstances if any should we use nuclear weapons) by talking about stopping proliferation. she didn't say anything i out and out disagreed with. she didn't have the depth of knowledge Biden had (who by the way i wish was running for president, not VP, it would most likely flip the way i'm voting), but she did have a reasonable response to every question that Biden also answered. i would have counted the dodges against her more if Biden wasn't doing the same. She showed she could handle the pressure and that she had something behind her (far from being a genius, but acceptable atleast for me), although not as much as Biden (really, why did no one vote for him in the primaries?), and comes out being a way to energize the base and maybe grab some neutral votes without being seen negatively as a bad pick (by most people). The tie in the debate pretty much takes the VP issue off the table now and it'll focus on the Presidential candidates from here out. ![]()
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Re: VP Debate
I'm sure she has her subject of expertise when it comes to general knowledge... but she has been acting pretty unimpressive as of late. I don't think Palin can handle public speaking as well as the other candidates. The debate last night was more formatted than the presidential debate. She had core questions to prep from, and whenever a curveball was thrown her way, she basically reverted to what she knew best. Whatever the case may be, she acted like she didn't know much about the prominent issues. She is not a very good extemporaneous speaker. It doesn't matter that she seemed to hold her own. I don't think she would have done as well if Biden wasn't also under pressure. Before the debate, he was interviewed and cautioned not to come off as "sexist." This greatly limited his debating capabilities, because he was overly conscious of how respectful he must seem. He didn't lead into Palin's weak spots, and he didn't debate really.
(Note: I also don't hate Palin.) ![]() 愛。 強さ。 理解。 忍耐。 ラプソディ。 |
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Re: VP Debate
She did a good job on memorizing shit that she had to say for McCain. Anyone could have done what she had done. She was a news anchor and was coached. But she did not give me a reason to vote for her and I still do not think that she is intelligent enough to be VP. Who ever believe she can lead this country is probably not smart enough to understand America's as whole nation and as a global player. If people think I like Palin she is as smart as I am don't forget Bush and his adminstration has put us into.
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Re: VP Debate
In the Netherlands it was written in the press as a tie. Small article with 1 picture thats all. Over here in Europe we do not care who is VP.
We also do not care for our own VP. Most countries in Europe have not a winner take all government were President is so important. We do concern overhere that all youre banks are fallen before China is in power and can take the lead, thats all. |
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Re: VP Debate
To PaulRotterdam normally US would not care as much for VP either, but circumstances that the President McCain is a 5 time cancer suvior and is 72 years old scares the morajority of the American people that he well die and this VP well lead this country. The question of an unqualifed VP is important at this point where USA economy and Iraq war is the main concern of all Americans.
Palin in this country is extreme Christian and Conserative that is all for American soil oil drilling not for starting green clean energy, pure por-life laws which out laws abortions even in sitiuations of rape & incest, and to most educatated Americans is uneducated in foriegn policy, econmics, & world economics. Palin does not believe in sceince! Palin's believes it is GOd will for the Iraq war and not the Bush Administration's will or private compaines will for the Iraq War like "Black Water" who made billions off of the Iraq War and people dying. Extreme conseratives love Palin, democrats (especially women) dislike her exteme God induced views and pro-drilling well destroy American life and different cultures that inhabit US. There is problem when this VP Palin can become president who is worse than God Willing President Geroge W. Bush. Now do you see American's concerns over this woman. |
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Re: VP Debate
I'd put the odds on McCain and Obama at dead even in the area of survival, so the VP does have some bearing this go around.
And its giving me headaches. I like McCain better than Obama, but i like Biden better than Palin. blah. The lesser of two weevils. ![]()
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Re: VP Debate
@ qbcomplex
So it is the fault of McCain to jeopardy the USA and the whole world being old of age and bringing in this Palin woman. Only to take advantage of some things in the poll but not considering he has to die some day. Strange behavier for someone so long in dangerous prisons to believe he has eternal life. Or he has worse judgement on Palin herselve but than he is also in an minority because the rest of USA is seing she is not qualified for the job. So what it is i do not know, only that both choises work against McCain. Take care... its McCains fault, not Palins. Palin can not help she's unaware whats happening in the world, McCain is, so his judgement is not good, combined with his age its a no-no situation. Anyway. Overhere in whole Europe we never fall for Republicans and even Democrats are handled with care and gloves else they start rioting and an invasion is at hand. But i can feel youre concern. |
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Re: VP Debate
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Re: VP Debate
pretty sure McCain isn't expecting to croak.
altho Palin really doesn't have enough experience, so i'm back to being undecided on my vote. wish Obama would nudge himself closer to the centerline on policy, he's too far left for me as is. ![]()
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