[Mr_Mephisto]

Well I dont think a random image found on the internet is a proof, I mean, unless you have the negative and the right location of the "proof" for everyone to see. Photoshop is a cute tool you know?? and not just that, people sees only what they want to see, just like that mayan "astronaut" image, the Machu-Pichu face in the mountains, and, why not a recent example?? the "devil's face" in a picture taken to one of the twin towers before it colapsed, just an image is no proof by itself. And just to finish (for now), there are many "scientist" who can tell you how the world was made in 7 days, or how men tamed mammoths, but never forget, uranium-238 has honour word, man not.

[rush21hit]

I understand your point

And I agree with you,people wants to see what they want to see.Other than that they don't really care.

But there are lots of people out there that care,more than you know.

Plus I don't think any of the images I posted was edited.You can google it for yourself using keyword "ooparts"

ooparts stands for Out Of Place Artifacts.An artifacts that don't fit to the history time line of the place where they were found.

[pretmaker]

Originally Posted by rush21hit

I understand your point

And I agree with you,people wants to see what they want to see.Other than that they don't really care.

But there are lots of people out there that care,more than you know.

Plus I don't think any of the images I posted was edited.You can google it for yourself using keyword "ooparts"

ooparts stands for Out Of Place Artifacts.An artifacts that don't fit to the history time line of the place where they were found.

BTW, regarding your "spark plugs"

They where found in a cave by some excavators. Inside a kind of stone...

http://tarunreflex.wordpress.com/200...ent-artifacts/

While mineral hunting in the mountains of California near Olancha during the winter of 1961, Wallace Lane, Virginia Maxey and Mike Mikesell found a rock, among many others, that they thought was a geode - a good addition for their gem shop. Upon cutting it open, however, Mikesell found an object inside that seemed to be made of white porcelain. In the center was a shaft of shiny metal. Experts estimated that, if this was a geode, it should have taken about 500,000 years for this fossil-encrusted nodule to form, yet the object inside was obviously of sophisticated human manufacture. Further investigation revealed that the porcelain was surround by a hexagonal casing, and an x-ray revealed a tiny spring at one end, like a spark plug. There’s a bit of controversy around this artifact, as you can imagine. Some contend that the artifact was not inside a geode at all, but encased in hardened clay. The artifact itself has been identified by experts as a 1920s-era Champion spark plug. Unfortunately, the Coso Artifact has gone missing and cannot be thoroughly examined. Is there a natural explanation for it? Or was it found, as the discoverer claimed, inside a geode? If so, how could a 1920s sparkplug get inside a 500,000-year-old rock?

It is simple yet people always fall for it...




Maybe it helps to before making such things known and filling the minds of young ones with junk.
You should always research your own findings before making it public. You will only get flamed you you do otherwise. But then again.. What is more amusing?

Although I can imagine that we need people who do not research things... Else the "flamers/Internet police" will have nothing to do with their spare time

[saywut]

I still rather believe in the evolution theory....
I think it would be more coincidence that pictures that looked like planes etc were made. As for the stones nfi....

If our DNA hasn't changed for 100,000 years maybe we haven't needed it to in order to adapt...

Just a theory I have is that an 'animalistic instinct' is needed to evolve, and we seem to be intelligent enough to adapt to just about anything these days, so no change is needed.

[Sakujo]

Are my eyes deceiving me? Does this topic really exist? This.. is.. sad.

I know how easy it can be to fall prey to internet hoaxes and the like, and to believe that special information has been kept hidden from the public in the contemporary Bush era, but come on. Evolution is confirmed by years of scientific study and prediction over an incredible breadth of scientific fields that are nearly unrelated. There's no reason to challenge it, even if aliens visited the Earth.

Furthermore, the pictures you're posting have LONG been debunked. I mean, this stuff isn't new like the David Icke variety's latest.

Just stop for a moment and consider something: How many people would have to be in on this conspiracy to keep this covered up? And how many of those people are otherwise known and regarded as Scientists; people who ordinarily seek truth, even if they're blinded by the contemporary paradigm or the like.

I mean, you're talking about whole archaeological teams and entire communities of scientific journals. It's unbelievable!

Please, do us all a favor and do some basic research on evolution, and these old, worn out internet hoaxes.

[quote]As for the extinction of lots of species long time a go including dinosaurs was an effect of a cataclysmic disaster of flood that overwhelm the earth and shrink its land mass.Producing a higher gravity.That explain giants of old times,including dinosaurs, became unable to sustain their own weight if they still exist.(for this paragraph I have no decent proof for it,it's just based on common sense and some online article made by some scientists about the growth of mass vs earth gravity)[/quote

I just had to comment about this before I moved on. The whole worldwide flood idea has been disproven time and time again. The geographic strata records don't allow for it.


Also LOL @ this being from a variety of Christians. These people don't even know the history of their religion's development.

[H-Girl Jerri]

Oh dear. If evolution is bullshit then where did we come from exactly? Sorry but as far as I go the Bible is one of the greatest fiction stories ever written and the idea that earth was seeded by advanced creatures from space all be it a bit romantic is a little too far out there for me. I think I will stick with the chaos and random chance that happened when the first amino acids formed in pools of slime.

[denco]

this is still mystery of the universe

[PaulRotterdam]

Originally Posted by rush21hit

That would be like finding a needle on a pile of grass

Actually I'm not trying to convince anyone one for what I believe,just to share the proof out there that still puzzling to our scientists.

Most of them end up convincing each other of their theories, I don't wanna go that far.

I still believe that evolution doesn't exist because human DNA hasn't change for more than 100.000 years(I forgot where I find this though)

The animal that don't evolve dies...yeah right.I believe they don't evolve,just adapting to their environment on different way(frog on the desert do exist)

As for the extinction of lots of species long time a go including dinosaurs was an effect of a cataclysmic disaster of flood that overwhelm the earth and shrink its land mass.Producing a higher gravity.That explain giants of old times,including dinosaurs, became unable to sustain their own weight if they still exist.(for this paragraph I have no decent proof for it,it's just based on common sense and some online article made by some scientists about the growth of mass vs earth gravity)

Croquodilles are around for 200.000.000 years now, kinda unchanched and kinda succesfully still. and you talk about 100,000 years what is nothing compared to a successtory as the crocs are.

When ice melts and produces water there is no increase in earth gravity ... both weights are equal. ice-water
Hmmm everywhere you write...forgot it, no proof, have heard about it maybe, and yet you base youre point of view on these heard things and half half letters read and dispells evolution.

If so:
100.000 dinosaurbones are found and deducted correct by C-14 methode.
1 was not found correct.

I personally go for the 100.000 are correct and support evolution is and was there, and you invente heh: we were attacked by aliens in the past because of the 1 not correct found bone.

Hmm read better those articles and take a closer look.
I know, its more fun if earth was found yesterday by aliens...
But then to make a statement and believe it is true is someting else i think.

[Dragonreborn]

Originally Posted by rush21hit

Have you ever thought of our existence of humanity and civilizations as a whole? who are we?where do we came from?and what makes us humans human?

On all archeological excavation sites there are been found lots and lots of out of place artifacts,such artifacts that our scientists knows they exist and yet they deny it!

At the temple of Abydos in Egypt,after a crumbling part of the the temple collapse and reveals what's lies beneath it it shows a shocking image:



At first glance you'll know what you saw.

And you'll be thinking how could a picture of airplanes,helicopters could be sculptured on a site that's more that 5000 years old?

or these Baalbek stones?









and they have Nuclear Weapon too?



I'm not scientist nor I'm a nuclear experts but that's exactly the description of a nuclear warfare...

if you want to know more about the truth that our scientists has hide them from us then go [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

==Uh...What does this have to do with evolution?

our genes are pretty damn close to monkeys, i don't have to hard a time with the idea. that said we've still yet to come up with any actual proof of evolution; we've never found a fossil record of one species becoming another. i'm still rather fond of the theory, and think its the best explanation out their at the moment.

==Several transitional fossils have been seen:



Entries are:

A) Pan troglodytes, chimpanzee, modern
B) Australopithecus africanus, STS 5, 2.6 My
C) Australopithecus africanus, STS 71, 2.5 My
D) Homo habilis, KNM-ER 1813, 1.9 My
E) Homo habilis, OH24, 1.8 My
F) Homo rudolfensis, KNM-ER 1470, 1.8 My
G) Homo erectus, Dmanisi cranium D2700, 1.75 My
H) Homo ergaster (early H. erectus), KNM-ER 3733, 1.75 My
I) Homo heidelbergensis, "Rhodesia man," 300,000 - 125,000 y
J) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, La Ferrassie 1, 70,000 y
K) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, La Chappelle-aux-Saints, 60,000 y
L) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, Le Moustier, 45,000 y
M) Homo sapiens sapiens, Cro-Magnon I, 30,000 y
N) Homo sapiens sapiens, modern

With the exception of the first skull, a modern chimpanzee for comparison purposes, all the skulls are arranged in chronological order. The blue pieces in the skulls are reconstructions, everything else is original fossil material.

Pretty clearly showing the transition from early primate to modern human.

[rush21hit]

Unlike other animals, the reptile has no "cutoff" mechanism whereby it stops growing in size.

Galileo, in the 17th century, first pointed out the principle of the "scale effect"- a lengthy subject, but one we'll touch on briefly. The "scale effect" concerns simple relationships of length to surface to volume and weight. .... the bones of an animal 3 times the length of a present-day animal would have to increase in density far more than 3 times in order to support the bulk of the animal due to the gravitational force. He wrote:

"...it would be impossible to fashion skeletons for men, horses or other animals which could exist or carry out their functions proportionately when such animals were increased to immense height- unless the bones were made of much harder and more resistant material than the usual, or were deformed by disproportionate thickening, so that the shape and appearance of the animal would become monstrously gross."

The giant bones of the antediluvians- both men and animals, fulfill Galileo's observations. Scientists don't recognize these massive bones as the same "kinds" of animals we have today because their bones are extremely massive." Wyatt, Newsletter Five

One reason that Giant mammals aren't currently well known is that they aren't discussed very much by the scientific community--not like dinosaurs are. Evolutionary theory doesn't do that great a job of explaining why such large animals were the ancestors of the smaller animals living today.

It's one thing if all these extinct animals are different species than exist today (and in some cases they are) but quite another if the primary difference is that they were giant animals.

Scientists solve this problem by the use of the scientific term; "LIKE". For instance, if a 12 foot St. Bernard were to walk across their lawn, they would describe it as a "Dog-Like creature, rather than a dog.

Men lived at one time much longer than they do now, and perhaps animals did too. However, mammals unlike reptiles, to not continue to grow throughout their lives.

One theory that has been advanced by creationists(Center for Scientific Creation) science is that prior to the flood, a vapor canopy covered the earth, some theorize that the vapor canopy would have blocked out harmful radiation which gets through now.

Further, the canopy would have created an almost perfect year round temperature. There is of course no way to prove this theory but the fact that plants, animals and man were bigger than they are today can be seen from the fossil record.

edit: woah my post after lots of typing coincidentally at the same time as Dragonreborn's.I'll try my best to answer you.

The chronology of evolution doesn't explain how come a man footprints side by side by a dinosaur footprints.Theory of evolution as scientist that believed in is happening for the last 2 million years back--correct me if I'm wrong.But as artifacts shows shocking proof to most scientist that humans already exist for more than 300 million years! and their appearance was no difference than modern human,heck they don't even have that almost monkey face.Despite the fact of their gigantic bones.

And so,because they don't have the answer for this, they deny it.