[ramirin]

Originally Posted by Konradz

I'll face the problem IF you back up your claims..

hehehehe

[Pat123]

Originally Posted by ramirin

Hell no! im not going to waste my time arguing for something if you are not fully capable of understanding and have no idea of what the data really is ....

Well, I'd say if you have the data, share it. And, if you are not willing to share it, I tend to suspect you do not have it.

Suppose I said I had an ounce of pure gold in a box which I would give you for $500. Would you take my word for it? I think not.

At any rate, a prudent person would check out what was in the box before forking over the cash.

In the bad old days, we Irish used to say, "Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see."

When I hear something like this, I'm inclined to ask, "How do you know that is true?" You do not have to answer, but don't be surprised if few people take you seriously.

[Failstorm]

If this was actually true, those 70% would soon rise too 100%

[ramirin]

Originally Posted by Pat123

but don't be surprised if few people take you seriously.

hahaha you are not understanding i dont need ppl to take me anyway hahaha after all i dont take them at all ...so we would be ok ....im not fighting for a point i was just stating there could be more answers than "Oooo i dont think so ; that is not true " and ppl should do some digging by themselves; what they come up with ; i dont care at all hahah .

Actually i dont really feel like convincing ppl who didnt care enough to look it up by themselves; they deserve no respect at all to me :D


I dont need reassurance ; ppl who matter will commit and do!!!! the rest haven't and never will matter , they will just pass :)

hahaha I do not care

It is what it is if anyone wants to know they will learn, it if they do not, i dont mind


It is not like im withholding some area 51 info this can be gathered by simply going to an ONU , OR human right association throughout the world

[Konradz]

Originally Posted by ramirin

hahaha you are not understanding i dont need ppl to take me anyway hahaha after all i dont take them at all ...so we would be ok ....im not fighting for a point i was just stating there could be more answers than "Oooo i dont think so ; that is not true " and ppl should do some digging by themselves; what they come up with ; i dont care at all hahah .

Actually i dont really feel like convincing ppl who didnt care enough to look it up by themselves; they deserve no respect at all to me :D


I dont need reassurance ; ppl who matter will commit and do!!!! the rest haven't and never will matter , they will just pass :)

hahaha I do not care

It is what it is if anyone wants to know they will learn, it if they do not, i dont mind

Alright then, you can choose not to care and to disrespect about everyone on this board ; you're the one being disrespectful when you say that people "should care enough to look things up themselves". You're the one bringing it up, being respectful would imply giving them the source of the crap you're claiming.
I'm glad you probably don't care if your posts are completely useless. I myself am glad I don't care enough about idiots like you to feel bad about their ignorance.

[ramirin]

I did not disrespect anyone , i just dont care and i shouldnt im not calling ppl names thats lame

Google it will come to you easy , i do not believe in instant satisfaction i think you should work hard to get it ... if you think that stupid or ignorant , go ask millionaires how did they get their money or leaders how they achieved their power im talking about lazy

Go to a human rights organization near you , learn and then come whine that you want reasons or blah blah , i cant tell you the meaning of life ...but the meaning of my life is not making you happy , learn , work , think (are you telling me im wrong hahah)

Why would i care , why should i care what difference would it make ? will it be worthy ? ...If i ever deem someone worth of my caring and loving like abused girls or so on i will talk to them and be everything they expect me to be , dont expect me to be nice and sympathize with uninformed whiners who cant look at the big picture . I never disrespected anyone i said this numbers are very much whats going on whether you can handle it or not , im not into wimps that are in the cave (like Plato put it very nicely i hope you know what the allegory of the cave is )

[Konradz]

Originally Posted by ramirin

I did not disrespect anyone , i just dont care and i shouldnt im not calling ppl names thats lame

Google it will come to you easy , i do not believe in instant satisfaction i think you should work hard to get it ... if you think that stupid or ignorant , go ask millionaires how did they get their money or leaders how they achieved their power im talking about lazy

Go to a human rights organization near you , learn and then come whine that you want reasons or blah blah , i cant tell you the meaning of life ...but the meaning of my life is not making you happy , learn , work , think (are you telling me im wrong hahah)

You did not? You did say that people who "don't care to find things themselves" deserve no respect earlier, though.

It's not about instant satisfaction or about being lazy. It's about how arguments work : if you claim something, you back it up. It's as simple as that.

What am I supposed to learn at a Human Rights Organization? That you're supposed to give your sources when you claim something? Why do you think Wikipedia has a full page of sources in each article? Sources are extremelly important : without them, what you say is wind. It equals nothing. Go to anyone who knows how argumentation works, learn, then try and come whine that you don't want to back your claims up. I can't tell you the meaning of life either, but I can tell you that this is not the way it works.

Why do you even claim something in the first place, if you're not even going to tell us where it comes from? If googling is that easy, then do it yourself. If I give you a bunch of info that you disagree with, it's not YOUR job to find the sources of them ; it's mine.

[ramirin]

hahah you are funny

let me say again

:
Why would i care , why should i care what difference would it make ? will it be worthy ? ...If i ever deem someone worth of my caring and loving like abused girls or so on i will talk to them and be everything they expect me to be , dont expect me to be nice and sympathize with uninformed whiners who cant look at the big picture . I never disrespected anyone i said this numbers are very much whats going on whether you can handle it or not , im not into wimps that are in the cave (like Plato put it very nicely i hope you know what the allegory of the cave is )



and no i wont take my time because im talking about treaties and hard work i will make you pay me big money for such kind of job

[Konradz]

Originally Posted by ramirin

hahah you are funny

let me say again

:
Why would i care , why should i care what difference would it make ? will it be worthy ? ...If i ever deem someone worth of my caring and loving like abused girls or so on i will talk to them and be everything they expect me to be , dont expect me to be nice and sympathize with uninformed whiners who cant look at the big picture . I never disrespected anyone i said this numbers are very much whats going on whether you can handle it or not , im not into wimps that are in the cave (like Plato put it very nicely i hope you know what the allegory of the cave is )



and no i wont take my time because im talking about treaties and hard work i will make you pay me big money for such kind of job

Actually i dont really feel like convincing ppl who didnt care enough to look it up by themselves; they deserve no respect at all to me :D

I think that should sum up the contradiction you seem to love making. By the way, insults are disrespectful as well : saying I'm a wimp, or that I'm an uninformed whiner isn't quite respectful.

It's not really about being nice. People who argue with each other generally aren't particularly nice to each other, even. Yet they do back their claims up. People like you, who can't back up their claims, go insulting others and pretend that they don't have to give any sort of proof or justification.
It's not really about handling things or not.

Also, statistics say that less than 1% of girls in USA (which is statistically one of the places where the most sexual assaults occur) are sexually assaulted, below 18 years old. That's the way it is : face the truth and stop trying to find problems where there isn't any.

[ramirin]

No no there is a difference between having not respect at all , and showing disrespect , i dont respect but i dont show it , i just say it because i have the right to say it and you cant make it not-saying .

Dis (the preposition ) would mean take off something but since i have none i cant disrespect anyone

I just dont go around being mean or awful to ppl (as crazy as it sounds hahahah really) but everyone was saying the numbers were wrong and the woman was a crazy b*tch so i said no numbers are actually close , and you rose hell hahaha which was funny to me. Angry ppl amuse . So it was incredibly presumptuous of you thinking i wanted to make ppl think what i think , so i said i didnt care because by all means i do not , after all when i shut the computer down im alone when i talk to ppl im alone no matter if around the web many ppl befriend me or agree with me , we are all alone in the end ,

Saying i dont care is very different than saying im out to get anyone , if through time and stuff people show they are worthy of my erspect and that they could be entrusted with something , then and only then i shall give everything i am to them ...if not , i dont care ....ITS NOT LIKE THEY CARE ABOUT ME EiTHER SO WE ARE EVEN hahahahha

Still i just said i disagreed so why or how is that wrong?

tssss tsss no no kiddie no no... such creed might backfire you in life .