How Do I Fix This ?

[Daniel.]

Yeah I'll take it how it goes tomorrow, like I said earlier to you Slayden I don't think she'll ditch the whole idea (which is everything thats going to happen this weekend) on a dime especially when she literally gets off on what I say to her & do to her.
She'd be crazy too.

I don't know what more else to say, shes said to me many-a-time her and I have the power to get through anything, no matter how crazy it is and no matter what it is.
I don't think this is going to be very stormy.

As for what you said about me mentioning this too early I had to get it off my chest, like she had to get her stuff off her chest the day before which is what made me post this thread and feel like this.

I think the longer its out in the air the more I'll be able to think of things that will help remove her doubt. Besides the girl needs time to make her decisions. All I can say really is that everything will be different when shes physically in my presence.

This isn't over but I'm not going to give in.
We'll see what tomorrow brings, I'm guessing a boring day at school to complain about and nothing more and that what I have now is just harmless paranoia.

~ImI

Also....

Originally Posted by Slayden

She wants your stability and for you to convince her, otherwise she just wants to ditch these feelings because they're quite uncomfortable. Give her the roller coaster example I gave you. But above all else remember two words: be cool.

Shit what does that mean then... (the stuff in yellow).

[Slayden]

Originally Posted by emersedsin

lol slayden...i can see you quickly becoming an authority on this kind of stuff... <respect>

LOL Think I should become a sex therapist?

Originally Posted by ImI

Shit what does that mean then... (the stuff in yellow).

She wants you to convince her to go through with the sex. She wants your stability and confidence so that she is assured that she is making the right choice. If you don't fulfill that role, she is more likely to call it off because she doesn't want to bear it alone.

Don't let it worry you though, because you are fulfilling that role. If you stay calm and collected, she will feel that stability and confidence coming from you, which will in turn calm her down.

[Daniel.]

Well her mother got in the way of our plans. Basically she said that her dad saw the mark on her neck (It was a love bite) and that, that was the reason her dad wouldn't talk to her for a week. Also that its best if we never see eachother ever again.

Basically shes totally fed up with everything and she wants to move out, but shes only 14. I said she should come and live with me.. (Before you object my parents are totally cool with having her here and our family is filthy rich, so being allowed and having the money to support her is totally not a problem).
At the moment her family is going through shitloads of Financial trouble and her dad stood on a huge nail and now his foot is badly infected so he cannot work for 2 months and they are living off savings. Her mother retired and the only money they have is what her dad saved up last November and what they are getting from the Government as well as her mums Pension.

Shes honestly thinking about comming over here atleast until I leave for the army. Which is in 2 months and 2 days. Everything would be taken care of but I cannot see her doing that.

School is on and the closest holidays are about 2 weeks before I leave. Which frankly is total bullshit, I really don't want to wait that long before I sleep with her again.

No matter how I see things I'm doomed to never see her again, but I'll try to fight every obstacle we both encounter. At the moment we are seeing if she can atleast stay Sunday over but not for the night, so we still get to do everything we just only get 1 day instead of 2 days and 1 night. Her mum did say "I don't think you should actually stay the "night" again, maybe just the day" but she said that pretty much to de-ter her to ever wanting to come back because it would seem to be too much trouble.

My parents honestly think she should stay here until her parents can learn to trust her more and perhaps listen to her once in awhile. She still has Grade 9 and 10 to Finish before she moves out, by then I'll almost be 19 and she'll almost be 17 so that is along way away, at the moment I'm trying to work out what I can NOW. Because I wont be here much longer.

I'm really fucked off at her mother for saying everything is fine your allowed on Thursday and just before she rings on Friday to make plans her mum crushes her dreams.

I don't know what else to say. I don't think Sunday will happen, this has been the worst week outcome that I couldn't have planned for. I'm really fucked off at her parents, they emotionally abuse her, scare her and it seems that they just lost all love for her. On top of this, I'm having serious thoughts that she is either adopted or the result of her mum being unfaithful, which is why her father cannot look her in the eye. Which makes me want to kill him.

Does anyone know of anything that I could do? ): She doesn't want me to talk to her mum, and I have infinitely stressed she needs to move here for her benefit more then mine and that she needs to talk to her mum about everything, in a civil tone without yelling. etc.
(Your all smart enough to get the rest of that).

I'm so confused at the moment. I feel like anything and everything I do is just going to be thrown back at me. If I trusted my driving skills a little better I'd race over there and we'd elope. I have more money then anyone else I've met we'd be able to survive forever.. however I can only dream... ~~

~Depressed ImI

[Slayden]

Her parents have jurisdiction over her at her age so she couldn't move in with you anyway unless her parents allowed it. I don't know for sure about the laws in Australia, but here in the States you need the signature of the parent of a minor to marry him/her. If this is the same in Australia, eloping is out of the picture too. There is nothing you can do. Sorry.

My ex was torn away from me entirely due to distance too. I won't go into detail because it'll just make you feel worse and that's the last thing you need right now.

This time, age does count because it's the hammer of the law. It's beyond what I can advise and out of your hands.

I hope you are upset primarily because you won't see her as much as oppose to not being able to losing your virginity. Don't feel bad about the virginity issue. After all, I lost mine not even a year ago (also due to a complicated distance factor; don't ask.).

[Daniel.]

No I'm not interested about my verginity. As for age here. You can leave home at age 12 as long as someone else will take you in. Those are our laws. You do not need your parents permission because our laws state that while you are under someones roof you abide by their rules as long as they are fair and `just.

Ella can leave and say goodbye any time she wants. She just might make things worse if she does this. Shes going to ask her mum when she gets back about Sunday and have a serious talk to her as well. We'll see what happens. She might stay a whole week on Easter.

As for eloping yes that IS illegal. But when you elope you aren't caught. Also if Ella willfully left with me her parents cannot do a thing except hope shes ok.

[Slayden]

God I wish I was born in Australia.

My day of happiness just went right out the window...


Man you remind me so much of my previous relationship. Tweak it a little and our circumstances would be identical. You seem to have a few more options open to you than I did however. So what are you going to do? It seems that it primarily depends on her.

[Daniel.]

Well I don't know what options I have. I'm going to talk to her mother regardless of the circumstances and I'm going to explain that I'm not a dangerous person who doesn't want into her daughters pants. (White lie).
Basically by being more mature then she is expecting me too be I'm going to try and remove the bar her mother has set. Her father chooses to have no say in the whole matter so I wont be speaking to him unless he wants to talk to me, which I am more then happy to.
I don't know whats happening tomorrow, I'll give an update. Shes cleaning her room as I speak and tending the chickens simply because she wants her mum to come back see her commitment to making her mum happy and then be on her mums good side after her mum came back from the hospital.
So the next time I see her mum I'm going to have a serious talk to her, nicely and professionally because I know how to address my "superiors".

She'll find out whats happening tonight in about 2 and a half hours. So I'll have to sit tight. I don't think her mum is going to bury her again after what she said on Friday crushed my girls chest. Anyway we'll see how it goes. Fingers crossed. I know more or less for a fact if she comes tomorrow we'll more then likely have sex.

UPDATE: I just got off the phone to her. Her mum is home and Ella is going to talk to her now. She'll be on the internet later.

[Unknown81888]

Wow everyone's advice is really good @_@

My only advice after reading his story was:

Tell her the truth! Haha...I know it sounds stupid, maybe a bit noobish, with a side order of lame, but you know what they say: "The truth shall set you free"

You're all probably going to ask am I nuts or that this advice is horrible, but think about it this way:

The 2 of them love each other so in the spirit of love, the girl would probably agree to give her virginity if the guy wants sex so bad -_-;

If this advice doesn't sound good to you here's part two:

When girls want something, it goes within a time-frame since they change their minds fast on a LOT of stuff....Just don't miss out next time she asks =p

And if THAT advice didn't work for you here's part 3:

There's a drug called Ruphie where it's undetectable to smell and taste, the drug works wounders, too much can kill the person, too little and the effect won't be good, but just the right amount can knock a person out after 20minutes exact time, and for exactly 6 hours and they would have no memory what-so-ever after the drug wears out, if they try to remember, their head would hurt @_@ Oh, and also the after effect is good = ) They can have the ability to learn stuff faster, like how to play an instrument, but would have no memory of how they learned it = / Drug with her with that

Yeah....part 3 is a long joke....but part 1+2 is the best advice a man like me can give heh...Sorry for not helping much @_@

And sorry to the people who think my advice is crap -_-; I have low confidence in myself so I'm saying this line as a back-up precaution >.<

[Daniel.]

Ok her mum said no. So it's a no. She basically said that she didn't want any part in it.
I'm going to try and organise something for this week, instead of her going to school for a day.
When easter starts.. which is along way away she'll come over for a week.
4 weeks from now I'll see her on the weekend. Everything WILL be sorted by then.

Thanks for your help Slayden. I did my best but while she lives under her mothers thumb shes going to have to bite the bullet.

~ImI

EDIT: Unknown81888 wtf did you even read the thread? She wants to make love with me. We've sorted that out, shes not scared of it anymore. Her mum is just being a bitch. Thats the problem now. You wasted your time replying. Sorry but you obviously didn't read anything..

[Unknown81888]

Originally Posted by ImI

Ok her mum said no. So it's a no. She basically said that she didn't want any part in it.
I'm going to try and organise something for this week, instead of her going to school for a day.
When easter starts.. which is along way away she'll come over for a week.
4 weeks from now I'll see her on the weekend. Everything WILL be sorted by then.

Thanks for your help Slayden. I did my best but while she lives under her mothers thumb shes going to have to bite the bullet.

~ImI

EDIT: Unknown81888 wtf did you even read the thread? She wants to make love with me. We've sorted that out, shes not scared of it anymore. Her mum is just being a bitch. Thats the problem now. You wasted your time replying. Sorry but you obviously didn't read anything..

Ahahaha...I know -_-; I got lazy after reading your part of the story, I neglected all the advice giving the others made @_@...*Sigh* I feel more pathetic than...I dunno..lol

Sorry I wasted you time -_-;