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Wow.... I was expecting you to come up with something new... Apparently, I'm wrong. same old THEORIES...

I will not let you give false information to people out here..

first of all, I don't care a damn about what those people are talking about in the videos you've just quoted.
Islam, gives everyone allowance to analyse religion, and you come out here telling me that those people are thinking otherwise, I'd tell you to first learn about fundamentals, then start judging what others think.
As a muslim who has quite some knowledge about his religion, I can assure you that all those videos are nothing but a result of misinterpretation. No information, that isn't supported by Qur'an (the holy book) is worth talking about. Qur'an; the true miracle of islam, keeping its original self for 14 hundred years.

Now... Read this well, quoting from anti-islamis web-sited whose translations are a total nonsense, is not very objective...

The one which you refer as Surah(9/9)...
firstly, qur'an is consist of surah s... Writing "surah" there, was enough to show me your level of knowledge on a topic you're trying to disgrace.
So, I took my qur'an into my hand, whicih has both arabic, and turkish text, and knowing some arabic, I can translate it from its original language at certain parts, like mis-translated words you'll see below.

surah title : El-tevbe
Verse : 1
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A serious warning from Allah and his Messenger
To the infidels with whom you've made an arrangement.
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information : this surah is clearly refering to the colony of Quraishi. Those who have some basic knowledge about Islam, should know who they are. They were the ones who kept muslims captive, tortured them , leaving them without food and water to death, and then started a war on muslims. Because things didn't go as they expected, they wanted to make a peace agreement. Muhammed ( pbuh) accepted the agreement, and this peace period was very useful for new people to be recruited. and many tribes converted to islam. During this period, according to the agreement, muslims who were captured by them were not to be given back. but those who converted to islam, and escape from them, came to muslims would be given back when wanted.

Verse : 2
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Spend 4 more months on the earth
Know that you cannot make Allah desperate
Allah will deffinitelly make those infidels suffer
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Additional information : Remember that, verses were the way Muhammed (pbuh) and Allah have interacted. By the time this verse arrived, muslims prepared for the war, and like I've said before, in one of my other posts, the only jihad in the history happened.
For those who find the words of Allah as brutal, listen well. This verses are only meant for the war against quraish tribe. and by the time this jihad happened, many of the quraishi population were already willing to convert to islam. Even the leader of quraish converted to islam, before the day of attack. For those verses to be followed, strictly, the same conditions must be provided. Neither in the history or nowadays, because there was/is never such agreement (other than quraish case), you cannot just simple quote from the verse 5, and say that Allah orders muslims to kill others. That'ws ignorance, and misleading people. If anyone has a second thought about the logic behind any of the words in Islam, should look into Qur'an from a non-subjective source.

More information : the verse three goes on like I said. It says "those whom you've had an agreement with" and "those who have done you everything/means everything bad"
And the verses after 5 also prove my words... If you doubt, read it...


surah title : El-tevbe
Verse : 35
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Allah will never forgive those who turned their backs to Allah, those who dies as an infidel, Allah won't forgive any of them.
Don't act loosely, neither ask them for sulh(sulh, in arabic, when used as Peace, indicates silence.), when you have the upperhand.
Allah is with you, and will not decrease the amount of your good deeds (clearly, states that those who don't wish to spend their time trying to get other people convert to islam, are welcome as well)
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And the part about treating women... Listen well...
Hadith are always a bad source to refer to, since they were not edit-free like verses, and got evolved from person to person within this huge period of time.
But, in one of your videos , some guy referred to the surah of "Nisa".
This is also an issue where lots of misinterpretation occurs.
The verse clearly states...

here is he misinterpretated part from the verse number 34
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If those women (refers to our wives) make your family-life impossible to live,
advice them
seperate your beds with them
and if they can't find the true way, darb(is a verb, I'll describe what it means) them
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darb : is force, and it has several uses.

the one, which is used in this context , is "leave" them, and emotionally shock them.

so, some people come out and say that when his wife doesn't sleep with him, he can force her into having sex. Does it say so ? Are the conditions provided ? No! And even if the conditions provided, it doesn't tell you to force her into having sex, it tells you to divorce her.

As for the one, where you were saying that islam allows having sex with young girls, I remember that the verse clearly said that "when their breasts got mature/became like a mature's", which is when the girl turns into an adult. Like I said, In my country the avarage age when girls can get married is 16, which is the end of their blue-age. I see no contradiction , do you ?

I find thread post verry irritating, and full of false information. Those who had a slight degree of change in their minds, by being mis-lead by all those nonsense, can read the Qur'an by themselves, and learn the truth. Qur'an is a great source, and to be able to talk about it, you should at least have a basic level of understanding about islam, which is only 1 page of reading.

Next time, find stronger proof to support your claims. Good days, brother. PEace be with you.