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Originally Posted by Junior666
Hey Slayden, what direction are you going in with this topic? Did you just want people's opinions? I'm kinda curious. o.o
I don't think people really get what you're trying to say. I think most think you're saying rape is okay if it's painless.
I dunno. *shrugs* I'm just a kid. =)
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At the time I was writing it, I had mixed feelings as to whether or not I should even have started this thread, and I still have mixed feelings about it now, simply because I knew many people would misunderstand my intentions and think I support rape if it is painless. This is not uncommon for me. Most people misunderstand me and are confused by me because of how deep I take things while considering all sides. I've been told that I make people's brains hurt, that I'm overeducated, that I think I'm better than them, that I'm a know-it-all or a smart ass. Just because I can solve a Rubik's cube or know what "dactylioglyph" or "antidisestablishmentarianism" is (and spell it correctly) doesn't mean I think I'm better than everyone else.
Images and superficiality are the norm these days.
My intention was to have an intelligent conversation on a topic that isn't so easily pigeonholed. And the fact that this is a sensitive topic takes it to the extreme, making it even more appealing and thought-provoking. I try to get people to pause and seriously
think about something before answering. In short, I want someone to talk to, and not just on the surface.
:defeat:
I wrote an article a while back on the Schizophrenic condition and was met with similar response.
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Originally Posted by Kenadian
I think he's asking people what they think on it, whether it is moral or not or something like that.
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Mostly. A small part of it was also me wanting input from some of these girls that have rape fantasies, what their take on it is. But mostly, I just wanted to know what people thought about it. Also most people don't know the different and unexpected ways that the body functions and I wanted to know how people would react to that too.
People think that so much is in their power, when in reality, very little is. Even modern society's "control" over nature is a tenuous and self-deluded grasp. When you break it down to something so simple as sexual consent, and the fact that people thought they had
absolute power over their decision of "yes" or "no" and you take that away, forcing a person to feel good, something has to "click" inside. Even the concept is enough to show just how small and powerless we really are, even when it comes to our own bodies. And THAT is a reaction I was hoping for, even though deep down I knew it wouldn't come.
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Originally Posted by Kenadian
And for what it's worth, most of us are "kids" here anyways. I know I wouldn't consider myself an adult yet, even if I am physically and legally. That being said, Slayden can't be much older than you, he's only 20.
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Originally Posted by Junior666
nah, he's definitely older than me mentally.
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About 4 years ago, an elderly woman (in her 70s I think), said I had the maturity of a 40 year old. I've grown a lot mentally in those 4 years so I'm not sure what I would be considered now. I only feel even more alienated and ostracized now from it. I can talk to the old because many of them understand me, but tend to discount me for my youth. The young are willing to accept me at first because of my youth, but over time tend to either fear me or ignore me.
They all know however, young or old, that if they have a problem and need someone to talk to about a personal issue, that they can come to me and I'll listen and try to help.
It's true that a person grows sadder as they grow wiser.
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Originally Posted by kiziroglu
jsut wannna add a little comment here.
your thread title is : "painless rape ; a moral dilemma"
reading this, I'd assume that your understanding of rape is abusing one person "physically". mine, in fact , is that the existence of the physical action without one side not wanting it. Not only mine, but also of the laws...
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Believe what you wish. I've said over and over that true, brutalizing rape is a short, painful physical act that leaves lasting mental scars. It's the mind-body correlation. Remove the pain in the act in the first place and the lasting mental scars never become inset.
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Originally Posted by kiziroglu
morals aren't build on the reflections to the physical acts, they're build on the understandings of those acts; painful, or painless...
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I'll refer you to my previous statements and posts. I grow weary of those who hear, but do not listen.
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Originally Posted by Junior666
But I swear, the way people've reacted, you'd think he said painless rape was okay.
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Yes... And that is... regrettable.
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Originally Posted by Junior666
I suppose the whole moral thing...whether people would consider it rape if it was enjoyable? o.o
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That was another part, one of my first reasons in fact. Again I'm back to the pigeonhole issue and getting people to stop and really contemplate it.