[Slayden]

The last board I posted a similar topic like this in, it nearly started a forest fire. But I didn't have as much scientific data then as I do now so the results and discussion should be pretty different. This actually was originally going to be part of a post in the "What do girls feel when they get an orgasm?" thread but as it got deeper I thought it would actually be better in its own thread, especially considering the moral dilemma I present at the end.

Oh and don't reply with "Things that are done in hentai should not be done in real life." That response is not welcome in this thread. I was sick of that chant clogging the air last time and I'm still sick of it now. This is real life with real science in 3D I'm talking about not hentai fantasy in 2D. Period.


First off I would like to inform everyone on where orgasms truly begin. The spine is actually where orgasms originate, not the brain. Ever notice the pressure or tingling sensation at the base of your spine when you are about to cum? The chit-chat between the genitals and the spine is what causes the delightful sensations and the orgasm that eventually follows. The brain has some input regarding this, just as the brain has some input for blinking and breathing, but it is largely automatic. Sexual stimulation is likened to a prolonged knee-jerk reaction, where the sensory signal is split in two once it reaches the spine; half of the signal "informs" the brain as to what is going on while the other half of the signal goes right back to the genitals with the message "gimme more."

The brain can impede or accelerate the process of reacting to the sexual stimulation, but all it can do is regulate how quickly or slowly the orgasm comes. The brain doesn't have the final say in a definitive "yes" or "no" sense. As I said, the genitals and spine are merely "informing" the brain as to what is going on, not asking for its approval. This matter is complicated when rape enters the equation.

As I said, this becomes very complicated and very delicate. To begin, pain will interfere with everything, even in the function of vital organs. The body is under duress and goes into survival mode when enough pain is applied, regardless of the source of pain. In the case of rape, you've got mixed signals going to the brain. There is a little pleasure in it, but almost all pain, so the pain overrides what little pleasure is being felt. Furthermore, the brain, as aforementioned, can suppress sexual pleasure. So if a woman truly does not want it at all, she will feel nothing but pain during an experience of unprepared penetration.

Now we're going to cross over to a morally questionable (in my opinion, still wrong) circumstance. I'm hesitant to mention it considering the context, but I believe in the freedom of information. I also believe in the freedom to watch people's perplexed, hesitant responses too. A woman can be raped, without pain, and feel an orgasm. I suppose you could call it the ultimate forbidden knowledge of human sexuality. Just as one can have painless anal sex due to technique, a painless rape may be performed, also due to technique. In fact, this is even easier than performing painless anal. However, I haven't actually done this one to a girl.

If a woman were tied up against her will and stripped, she'll be feeling a lot of fear at this point. But under these circumstances she is handled in an unexpected way. The rapist fondles her genitals exactly the same way as though it was consensual (in short, foreplay). Given the gentle touch, her vagina would react in the exact same fashion as though she wanted it. Blood would still swell her labia (her pussy lips), her vagina would still become more flexible, and she would still get wet. The only difference is, her brain would be suppressing the signals and prolonging the amount of time it would take to get her body in the mood. Fingers, vibrators, even a penis could be inserted after a time and she would feel no pain because her vagina and spine are acting of their own accord, without the brain having a say in it. And despite that her brain is fighting the sensations, an orgasm is inevitable. She cannot stop it. She is forced to feel good.

To make this easier to understand, the same applies to guys. It's not one-sided you see. Tie up a guy against his will and jack him off without him wanting it and he will orgasm. It is exactly the same. There is no difference in principle, only time. It would take longer to get a woman to achieve orgasm in this fashion than a guy.

Now here's where it gets better. Put a girl in this situation. She feels no pain and she orgasmed, but she was forced. Was she raped? Most would say "yes." Now put a guy in this situation. Obviously no pain and he orgasmed, but he was forced. Was he raped? Most would say "Uhhhhh..."

What would you say?

Personally, if I was tied up and forcibly jacked off (as funny as it sounds), I would not be happy afterward. Basically it was done without my permission. I would have a mental feeling of discomfort, and maybe a bit of guilt, but trauma would not be a factor at all. If a woman had a rape fantasy and asked me to do this I would likely do it, but other than that, it's a little too close for comfort to the standard, traumatic rape.

Thoughts? I'm especially interested in girl's opinions on this, but guys are welcome too. (If you dare to reply)